You're going to need to keep it in check here, we have a different level of civility/maturity standards here compared to other grow forums.

Just as long as you know that less electricity also means less yield.

Thank you for your service, I'm a disabled Army vet myself but THAT was 30 years ago. I did my first grow even before that so, yes, while many things have changed I still wouldn't let plants in RW sit in standing water. YMMV...

If you would, a few pictures in normal lighting, occasionally, will allow everyone to see true colors instead of blinding purple.

Well that is the thing. More electricity doesn't mean more yield. You'll want to look into why plants actually grow. They require two specific spectrum of color red and blue. The amount of luminescence really doesn't come into play when you start dealing with plants. That's why my mother plant is doing so well on such little lumins. However the amount of blue and red light she gets specifically designed for veg states is why she grows around an inch a week. Granted in natural light (most powerful sun) she might be growing 2 inches a week or more. Alas winter time doesn't allow such a grow.

Yeah I'll have to remember to send some regular lighted pictures when I get a chance. The only thing that does bug me about the ss400 is the purple natural lights.

I'm very civil in most cases. Just haven't smoked in about 7 years. Tends to make me a bit edgy. Hence why I'm growing take some of that edge off. Start enjoying myself again. Anyways thanks for the advice I'll start doing some more research on cloning with rockwool after the first stage is done. See what I come up with.

Straph wrote: You'll want to look into why plants actually grow. They require two specific spectrum of color red and blue.

I've asked you to watch that attitude and it takes a lot of nerve to suggest that I haven't looked into the way plants grow. Comments like "If you reply to my post please at least read what I took the time to type" and "You'll want to look into why plants actually grow" are condescending, arrogant, disrespectful and insulting. That's not acceptable here, whether that was your intention or not.

Furthermore, you're wrong. Plants do need more than red and blue and intensity is more important that you've been led to believe. Seedlings of course don't need as much intensity due to their size and mother plants don't need the penetration since they're not flowering either. While this might be your first grow, it's not mine and I know better than what you're trying to claim. We have plenty of journals here that demonstrate the importance of wattage to yield. If you think that small LED lights are comparable to larger HID lights, in terms of yield, you'll be sorely disappointed to learn that's nothing more than sales propaganda and, in the real world, it doesn't work like that.

Yeah I'll have to remember to send some regular lighted pictures when I get a chance. The only thing that does bug me about the ss400 is the purple natural lights.

Yes, please do that purple is very intense.

I'm very civil in most cases. Just haven't smoked in about 7 years. Tends to make me a bit edgy. Hence why I'm growing take some of that edge off. Start enjoying myself again. Anyways thanks for the advice I'll start doing some more research on cloning with rockwool after the first stage is done. See what I come up with.

I suggest you try much harder and in all cases while you're here. Please don't be rude to me or my members who are only trying to help you get as good of a grow as possible.

A warning how smashing. If you expect me not to reply to a comment like this "Just as long as you know that less electricity also means less yield. " you would be mistaken. You can't expect me to just take the information you give as solid as I've read, and learned otherwise from reliable sources such as university, and college published papers. I'm also just sharing the information I've learned, and trying to have a friendly conversation. This has nothing to do with you or your ego as a moderator. I haven't cursed, nor I have called you stupid, arrogant, or been disrespectful. All of which you have called me directly. I forgive you regardless as I understand people commonly mistake what is written and make their own interpretations of the material as a attack on them when it is indeed not the case. I'm not being rude. I'm simply telling you the information I've learned. How you take that information is up to you. I'm not saying you don't know how to grow, or that you don't know your stuff nor have I even mentioned this in my postings. I'm saying this is what I know and sharing that knowledge. Most of the information I've learned about growing is from sources listed below. Who publish pages for others in the science community and are up for review by their peers. I hope this helps you understand what I'm trying tell you.



I'll get back to posting more about my grow tomorrow, and try to get some normal light pictures up. If anyone can tell me how to shrink my pictures on this site so they aren't massive I would appreciate it.

Less electricity will equal less yield and you're free to reply but you will drop the attitude and do it respectfully. I won't warn you again. We have the real life grow journals that back it up regardless of how it should work theoretically. It's not my fault that you read some theory and thought it was gospel.

This has nothing to do with my ego and insinuating such is another example of your attitude gone wrong. I did NOT call you stupid, I said you were wrong and *your comments* have been condescending, arrogant, disrespectful and insulting, I'm not saying that you have to agree with everything I (or other members) post, you just need to disagree in a more civil manner.

Furthermore, You don't get to decide if your comments are acceptable here, if an admin or moderator tells you to change your tone, I suggest you look at your own posts. Your snide, smarmy comments aren't welcome here and if you don't act more respectful and mature you'll be completing your GFP journal on another forum.

I'm saying this is what I know and sharing that knowledge.

That's what I'm saying too except I have real life experience to back up what I know instead of just things that I've read. You don't have to take my grow advice but I only GIVE advice to try to help. You do, however, have to behave better if you want to stay here.

Hope that helps...

I have reported you to the site owner. Please stop posting on my journal. I am using this forum to track the history of my grow with the new LED I'm using. I'm not here to argue and be harassed by a moderator about ethics or possible rudeness/attitude. Further more I'm not here to get bashed by a moderator on how to or not to grow, or my sources of information. I'm here for me.

If you continue to harass me on my postings I will go to another site to post my journal. There are many grow journal sites out there.

Thank you for your time.

You were warned...