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Re: New to the GFP

Postby ItsCurtisBaby » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:01 am

Hey GR,

Nice pics, still loving Q2 and that grow chamber you built. Q2 is definitely coming along very nicely.

Did I understand correctly that you trimmed some underbrush after flipping to 12/12? Is that a stressor to the plant, maybe risking hermie? I did absolutely zero trimming this time around, which was certainly not a good thing...but I wanted to establish a benchmark to compare future grows to....Just trying to learn as much as possible here.

Thanks! ICB :mrgreen:
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Re: New to the GFP

Postby gr865 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:33 am

ItsCurtisBaby wrote:Hey GR,

Nice pics, still loving Q2 and that grow chamber you built. Q2 is definitely coming along very nicely.

Did I understand correctly that you trimmed some underbrush after flipping to 12/12? Is that a stressor to the plant, maybe risking hermie? I did absolutely zero trimming this time around, which was certainly not a good thing...but I wanted to establish a benchmark to compare future grows to....Just trying to learn as much as possible here.

Thanks! ICB :mrgreen:


Curt,

I am not sure about the hermi thing, truthfully I did not think about that. Just wanted to force more energy to the tops, could be a bad on my part, we shall see.

Thanks for the nice comments.

GR
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Re: New to the GFP

Postby SisterMaryElephant » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:35 am

gr865 wrote:I am not sure about the hermi thing, truthfully I did not think about that. Just wanted to force more energy to the tops, could be a bad on my part, we shall see.


Not every plant will turn hermie over a little stress, although some can/will even with no stress. That said, you do not force energy into the tops by defoliating the bottoms, it's not a zero-sum game where removing material from the bottom gives more to the top. Does cutting the feet off of children make them grow taller with bigger heads?

Not the last time I tried it. ;)
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Re: New to the GFP

Postby gr865 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:15 pm

SME,

Not sure about that analogy. LOL

But, Let's say you have a plant with 10 nice tops and a few sucker tops on the lower branches, the root system supplies all of the branches and if you remove some of the smaller ones it seems that the root system would send more h2o and nutes to the other shoots/branches. I may be mad but I am not a scientist.

GR
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Re: New to the GFP

Postby SisterMaryElephant » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:24 pm

OK, so the analogy was a bit facetious, I never chopped the feet off of children, I just go after their knuckles with a ruler... ;)

But, no, it doesn't work that way. The soil/hydro unit has more than enough water/nutrients and removing bottom plant matter doesn't make more go to the tops. It just makes less leaf area for photosynthesis and less stored reserves, overall, for the plant. It's not like the roots are going to send say exactly 1 gallon, no matter what, and removing the bottom will allow more to the tops. Think of it more like a straw, the leaves and stems suck up what they want/need, not the roots pushing it.

Removing some of the bottom foliage can allow for more air circulation under the canopy, in some situations, but that won't translate into more growth on top.
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Re: New to the GFP

Postby Harley09 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:27 am

Lookin good G you're getting closer to harvest. I'm done growing for now. I'm gonna build a larger room before I do another grow. My next grow will be Mama Thai and Thai Stick in 10 gallon pots I'm gonna try and grow some trees lol.
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Re: New to the GFP

Postby gr865 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:01 am

Day 14 of 12/12

Took the ladies out on the porch and gave them a good feeding and watering yesterday.

I have started training Q2's daughter in a circular pattern during flower, she as wanted to spread her wings.

I also removed the ring from Q2 and reinstalled placing all branches that were in side the ring to the outside of the ring, giving me more open space inside the plant, and hey I did not break a single branch, yippy!

They are both doing well, buds forming nicely. Q2 has grown over 10 inches since beginning of flower. I am learning that I need to be watered and feed more often, at least every other day and the minimum. Thinking I am turning on the UV light today.

So here are some pics from 11/10 and 11/11.

Q2 top -2 11-10-13.jpg
Q2 before removing, repositioning and replacing the tomato ring.
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Q2 from the top 11-10-13.jpg
Q2 after removing, repositioning and replacing the tomato ring.
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Q2 face on 11-10-13.jpg
Note the height of the overall plant, the facing side is where one half of the mainline broke off and I let it form two new shoots to replace the one that broke. those branches are much smaller that the true mainline shoots. Really show the difference in a true mainline vs. an attempt at a true one.
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Q2 top foot 11-11-13.jpg
This is one branch of the 7 major and 3 minor branches of Q2, the minor branches are 8 to 10 inches shorter than the major branches. not sure if I can do any thing about them now. Just going to let it grow out.
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Q2 11-11-13.jpg
Am already seeing trics forming on the leaves, cool!
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Q2 under the light 11-10-13.jpg
Love the looks of this picture.
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Daughter of Q2 11-10-13.jpg
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Peace out,

GR
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Re: New to the GFP

Postby gr865 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:13 pm

Just had to post on this date, 11/12/13, won't get another chance to do that.

Took the ladies out for a feeding this afternoon, things are looking ok.
Since I repositioned the tomato rings on Sunday the center has filled in already, growing well.

Tighten Q2's daughters branches to further increase lighting space around the plant.and repositioned the plants in the cabinet. No more trimming except maybe remove some fan leaves if needed.

Fed with 1120 ppm, 6,62 pH soaked them both well. I notice that Q2 uses more H2O than her daughter by about a .25. I am still watering them both at the same time, hope I am not over watering the daughter.
Temp and RH has been nice lately.
Lights on 79 to 82 degrees, 48 to 52% RH
Lights off 68 to 71 degrees, 58 to 61% RH

Pictures.
Q2 11-12-13.jpg
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Q2 2nd node bud site.jpg
Really love the trics showing
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Q2 cola.jpg
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Q2 colas LED light.jpg
The light shows the trics up well.
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Sorry Q2's daughter pics were blurry.

Peace out,

GR
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Re: New to the GFP

Postby SisterMaryElephant » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:13 pm

They seem nice and healthy... :D
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Re: New to the GFP

Postby gr865 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:45 pm

SME or others,

What do you feel would be the best grow method for my 6.25 sqft cabinet? Only looking at two grows a year, starting seed in July, harvest in Nov., start seeds in Sept harvest in January.

I have a seed bank of:
5 - White Widow fem'ed
3 - Ice fem'ed
5 - Afgann ?
10 Free LOL, who knows?

I am totally open to suggestions. Thinking a Hempy grow, 4 plants in 5 gallon, only need enough for my med needs, would never sell, but do like to get high also, LOL
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