Hopefully you can get he pH under control.
I doubt you'd have much luck outside in winter, you might just go ahead and flower them with the LED now.
Re: New project
by SisterMaryElephant » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:39 am
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Re: New project
by Purpmonkey » Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:34 pm
It's been about 4 days since I watered my soil plants last and they seem to enjoy that when I transplanted into the smart pots I added some lime to the mix so I hope that helps some and some azomite. Still a lot of deficiencies but new growth look to be doing well.
Ph in my eg fluctuated by .1 last night down to 5.7 but is back to normal now since they are just seedlings they still haven't drank much from my res I have been taking the drip off of them for a few hours a day so I don't drown them.
SME, how long should I go before changing out my brew?
Temp got up to 68 but is now stable at 65 room temp is 72 and humidity is 40%
Ph in my eg fluctuated by .1 last night down to 5.7 but is back to normal now since they are just seedlings they still haven't drank much from my res I have been taking the drip off of them for a few hours a day so I don't drown them.
SME, how long should I go before changing out my brew?
Temp got up to 68 but is now stable at 65 room temp is 72 and humidity is 40%
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Re: New project
by SisterMaryElephant » Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:29 pm
I wouldn't worry about .1 pH fluctuation but you should raise the daytime room temp/RH if possible. 78-80F and 60% RH should be good.
Seedlings won't use much until they start getting bigger and actively vegging so you can go a while without worrying about the res. Once they get bigger, you can change it out when they use it up or you can change it out after topping off. Since you're kind of new you might want to change it out every 2-4 weeks, once they get going. How big is the res on the EG?
Seedlings won't use much until they start getting bigger and actively vegging so you can go a while without worrying about the res. Once they get bigger, you can change it out when they use it up or you can change it out after topping off. Since you're kind of new you might want to change it out every 2-4 weeks, once they get going. How big is the res on the EG?
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Re: New project
by Purpmonkey » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:51 pm
The res holds 17 gal. I have 10 in it, figured that to much was just a waste and to little would be hard to control temps. I can try to get the temps up and add try to add to the r.h.
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Re: New project
by Purpmonkey » Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:13 pm
Sme, I turn off my ventilation and now the temp is steady at 77 degrees humidity is 59% but the only air exchange is me going in and out a few times a day res temp is now 67 and holding
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Re: New project
by SisterMaryElephant » Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:42 pm
You could put the fan on a timer or add co2. 
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Re: New project
by Purpmonkey » Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:33 am
Lol, not sure how I would add the c02 short of a huge bucket of active brewers yeast....which I don't think I need that in there. So I choose to use my timer for the fan. On for 15 minutes every hour. Now the temps range between 72 -76 humidity is between 48 and 78 percent
Res temp range 63-68
Ph stable 5.8
Roots are showing tips through net pots
My 4 dirt plants are still looking the same right now I am feeding with plain r.o. Ph 7.3 in 6.2 out
Soaking a blue og and an ultrasour for the eg. I wonder if the eg can really support 6 plants during flower or even hold that kind of roots.if they are flowered under 12 inches I hope it will
Res temp range 63-68
Ph stable 5.8
Roots are showing tips through net pots
My 4 dirt plants are still looking the same right now I am feeding with plain r.o. Ph 7.3 in 6.2 out
Soaking a blue og and an ultrasour for the eg. I wonder if the eg can really support 6 plants during flower or even hold that kind of roots.if they are flowered under 12 inches I hope it will
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Re: New project
by SisterMaryElephant » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:03 pm
You can buy co2 tanks and regulators. 78% is a little wet for my tastes though, maybe time for a dehumidifier...
Your hydro system seems dialed in so far. Are they healthy? What are you feeding them now?
Man...7.3 in and 6.2 out is still WAY acidic, you might have needed more lime. I hope they make it...
The EG should handle 6 plants but I don't know about 12" tall, I'd shoot for 8-10 for the first try but that assumes that they're mature enough to flower then. Again, this is why clones are often better, especially for LED, due to the penetration issues.
Your hydro system seems dialed in so far. Are they healthy? What are you feeding them now?
Man...7.3 in and 6.2 out is still WAY acidic, you might have needed more lime. I hope they make it...
The EG should handle 6 plants but I don't know about 12" tall, I'd shoot for 8-10 for the first try but that assumes that they're mature enough to flower then. Again, this is why clones are often better, especially for LED, due to the penetration issues.
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Re: New project
by Purpmonkey » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:11 pm
78 has been a max now it's a bit more stable 48 to 62 all day today.
They look very healthy....short but healthy.
Just have to wait and see worst case scenario is they veg till spring. I've been prepping a bed in the back since last spring so if need be they can go there with my tomatoes
Since I have such a small space do you think a few of the "exhale bags" would help anything?
Any suggestions for cloning techniques or products that help? I made an aeroponic bucket but only one even survived in it.
They look very healthy....short but healthy.
Just have to wait and see worst case scenario is they veg till spring. I've been prepping a bed in the back since last spring so if need be they can go there with my tomatoes
Since I have such a small space do you think a few of the "exhale bags" would help anything?
Any suggestions for cloning techniques or products that help? I made an aeroponic bucket but only one even survived in it.
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Re: New project
by SisterMaryElephant » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:50 pm
The co2 bags are ok but you'll want to vent less if you add them so it's not wasted. CO2 can make the plants want more food and handle more heat too so keep an eye open. I don't know how many it'd take, you'd have to check the directions. *shrug*
There are bubble cloners, aero cloners, some people clone in coco/perlite/vermiculite/soil/and even just sitting in a glass of water on a window sill.
There's a whole section on cloning here:
GrowFAQ : GrowFAQ Basic Topics
There are bubble cloners, aero cloners, some people clone in coco/perlite/vermiculite/soil/and even just sitting in a glass of water on a window sill.
There's a whole section on cloning here:
GrowFAQ : GrowFAQ Basic Topics
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