You should start a new journal, everyone loves a nice grow.

I would, but after two dozen grows of the same strain, I got a handle on what to do.

Not saying there isn't always room for improvement.

For instance, I always had a clogging/sediment problem with GH nutes, so I replaced the filter bag I was using with a nylon "wine press" type and now I have no problems because it has a wider mesh.

Ergo, the chiller now doesn't shut off/on as often, but the electric bill is the same.

My yields are pretty constant (about 18 oz not counting what I give away).

I'm not suggesting that you start a new journal because you need help but it might help others that need/want it.

It's up to you of course...

Hey - beautiful journal here! If i might suggest something for your cloning and moms?

moms: investigate a bonsai mom - but really the concept is simple:

1. put mom wherever
2. get mom growing fast
3. cut half off
4. wait for 10 days
5. rinse and repeat; goto 2.

I've been able to get plants EVER so bushy this way. Another tip, is to pull the mom branches below the top of the root line. This forces root hormones into the stems, and they bulk up FAST, and every node becomes a budsite.

For clones, once you have roots, and they are in whatever secondary container (soil, hydro, whatever), grow for 2 weeks, cut in half. taking out that top center node will do two main things in my experience - one, the plant will grow WAY bushier, and it will stay shorter - they still jump, but stay very predictable.

Combine this with LST/HST and you should be golden.

Ive vegged clones for 4 months, stacked up waiting to go in the garden. Whenever they are out of control i give them a haircut. only the last 2 cuts prior to flower matter that much. I might be able to work up some pix, gotta see what i've kept from past rounds.

Final note:
In general, the most hands off way to accomplish this that I know of is the following:

1. grow rooted clone so that it satisfies the following conditions:
a. 18"-24" tall
b. minimum 7-9 nodes of branches
2. cut off the bottom two nodes
3. cut off the center stalk two nodes down from the top.

This should leave you with 3-5 nodes (double branches @ each node), each of which will make big boss colas _

Happy harvesting!!!



This is enough different than the above to be a second post, but who needs to spam!!

So... i saw your manifold you made for the 800w; looks sick. Made me think about a few things I hope you could comment on:

I wonder if there's any smell in the air coming from your exhaust?
I wonder if the little fans on top of the manifolds are able to pull air in easy?
I wonder if the vortex sucking out the air has a hard time with that tall column?
You have a carbon filter on the outside of the vortex?
Would you have a parts list?
Think insulated hvac ducting would help?
Would this fit on a 400w in a (roughly) 3x3?
With the manifold in place, your temps dropped 20degF - WOW
I'm thinking about co2, but is it even really possible, doing in the same room i sleep in (toss tent -> walkin closet + door open + a/c right outside it)?
Whats the ambient temps in the room with the tent, to have the light + tent hit 80 now, vs 100 before? (is the room @ 65, 75, etc)

wonder if there's any smell in the air coming from your exhaust?
I wonder if the little fans on top of the manifolds are able to pull air in easy?
I wonder if the vortex sucking out the air has a hard time with that tall column?
You have a carbon filter on the outside of the vortex?
Would you have a parts list?
Think insulated hvac ducting would help?
Would this fit on a 400w in a (roughly) 3x3?
With the manifold in place, your temps dropped 20degF - WOW
I'm thinking about co2, but is it even really possible, doing in the same room i sleep in (toss tent -> walkin closet + door open + a/c right outside it)?
Whats the ambient temps in the room with the tent, to have the light + tent hit 80 now, vs 100 before? (is the room @ 65, 75, etc)

1. No smell, the air is drawn from outside through the housing and vented out, just like I did with the Cooltube.

2. I would have removed the small fans, but didn't want to disassemble (drill rivets) the housing.

3. The 6" Vortex doesn't strain at all.

4. No carbon filter, no filter at all as I have a small enough grow that doesn't reek and I dump the smell over 24' high out of the roof vent.

5. Insulation? what for, as noise and radiated heat is no problem, the Vortex is on a speed control and in the attic.

6. CLW (I believe) came up with something similar for a 400 customer.

7. Ambient temp is in the 70's and yes, an over 20 deg drop in temp. The housing actually runs cooler then the venting!

WOW, I thought my rig had sprung a leak.

(by the way, you are not a true closet grower unless you have flooded the closet at least once) lol.

I have the tanks sitting in a catch tray just so I can spot any "problem" instead of walking into a puddle.

I look and see water.

OH CRAP!

Then I look at the humidity.

Almost 60%.

Guess I hit the DEW POINT!

I use a chiller and I run @ 61 deg F.

There was condensation all over the plumbing so I raised the temp a couple of degrees and the moisture has subsided.

Onward........

I've flooded entire 12x12 rooms...it happens.

You could insulate the colder parts so condensation doesn't form but raising the temp or lowering the humidity is probably easier.

I will probably end up wrapping the plumbing with insulation sometime later after I bring in this grow.

Chillers rock.

Had to raise the soup temp to 63 deg F to stop the condensation.

That worked.

The bad news is that I popped four seeds and it looks like the the biggest of them (of course) is a male and scheduled for a cull.

I sent an email to CALW to see how they are coming along with their version of a vented fixture like mine as they said they were working on one.

Did you insulate the cold parts too?